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		<title>Comment on Periodic solutions of the Field-Noyes model by hydrobates</title>
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		<dc:creator>hydrobates</dc:creator>
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		<description>Unfortunately I do not know the answer to this. If I have an idea on it I will let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I do not know the answer to this. If I have an idea on it I will let you know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Periodic solutions of the Field-Noyes model by Willie Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willie Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response. 

I took a look at the paper of Hastings and Murray. The proof is rather cute. I guess the monotonicity is also manifest in their proof of the cycling condition among the sub-boxes. 

I don&#039;t have too much background in dynamical systems, so another quick question: let us put ourselves in the shoes of Hastings and Murray. Suppose we have a three dimensional dynamical system. We know that it is monotone. We also know that there exists a convex set with smooth boundary (say that&#039;s true. I know they have something slightly weaker) such that two things holds.

(a) The flow on the boundary points inwards. (By Brouwer&#039;s this implies existence of at least one fixed point.)
(b) The fixed point is unique and unstable. 

Then is it sufficient to just apply Poincare-Benedixson and say that &quot;if we can show there are no homoclinic trajectories then there must exist an orbit&quot;? Or does that actually require more work. (I am just wondering if there are more abstract/general ways of arriving at Hastings and Murray&#039;s result. Another way of phrasing my question is probably &quot;is it s theorem that Poincare-Benedixson is applicable to three-dimensional monotone systems, or is there a caveat?&quot;)

Thanks in advance for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response. </p>
<p>I took a look at the paper of Hastings and Murray. The proof is rather cute. I guess the monotonicity is also manifest in their proof of the cycling condition among the sub-boxes. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have too much background in dynamical systems, so another quick question: let us put ourselves in the shoes of Hastings and Murray. Suppose we have a three dimensional dynamical system. We know that it is monotone. We also know that there exists a convex set with smooth boundary (say that&#8217;s true. I know they have something slightly weaker) such that two things holds.</p>
<p>(a) The flow on the boundary points inwards. (By Brouwer&#8217;s this implies existence of at least one fixed point.)<br />
(b) The fixed point is unique and unstable. </p>
<p>Then is it sufficient to just apply Poincare-Benedixson and say that &#8220;if we can show there are no homoclinic trajectories then there must exist an orbit&#8221;? Or does that actually require more work. (I am just wondering if there are more abstract/general ways of arriving at Hastings and Murray&#8217;s result. Another way of phrasing my question is probably &#8220;is it s theorem that Poincare-Benedixson is applicable to three-dimensional monotone systems, or is there a caveat?&#8221;)</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for your time.</p>
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		<dc:creator>hydrobates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good point which I did not think about. It demonstrates how I sometimes 
manage to fail to make connections between things I know. I now realized 
that the Field-Noyes model is a monotone dynamical system - checking this is a trivial computation. It is discussed in the book &#039;Monotone Dynamical Systems&#039; by Hal Smith. As I mentioned in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://alanrendall.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/using-mathematics-to-understand-aids-better-part-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt;, being monotone implies that the dynamics of a given system is no more complicated than a generic system of one dimension less. Since the Field-Noyes model is three-dimensional this means that it is effectively two-dimensional and so there can be no chaos. I suppose that chaos is the usual thing in most dynamical systems and when it is absent there must be a special reason.I feel I would prefer if the world was not like that but it seems that it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good point which I did not think about. It demonstrates how I sometimes<br />
manage to fail to make connections between things I know. I now realized<br />
that the Field-Noyes model is a monotone dynamical system &#8211; checking this is a trivial computation. It is discussed in the book &#8216;Monotone Dynamical Systems&#8217; by Hal Smith. As I mentioned in a <a href="http://alanrendall.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/using-mathematics-to-understand-aids-better-part-2/" rel="nofollow">previous post</a>, being monotone implies that the dynamics of a given system is no more complicated than a generic system of one dimension less. Since the Field-Noyes model is three-dimensional this means that it is effectively two-dimensional and so there can be no chaos. I suppose that chaos is the usual thing in most dynamical systems and when it is absent there must be a special reason.I feel I would prefer if the world was not like that but it seems that it is.</p>
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		<dc:creator>myasthenia gravis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your blog very beautiful. thanks for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://medicalsin.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;myasthenia gravis&lt;/a&gt; article, very helpful for me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your blog very beautiful. thanks for the <a href="http://medicalsin.com/" rel="nofollow">myasthenia gravis</a> article, very helpful for me..</p>
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		<dc:creator>Willie Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any reason why such systems will have periodic, instead of almost-periodic solutions? In the integrable case it is trivial, but in general, in a system with two unstable fixed-points, say, would we not expect a generic chaotic behaviour? 

That said, I saw the BZ reaction in a chemistry class once. After primed by a semester of The Second Law and Thermodynamic Equilibrium (in a different class, but still fresh on the memory), that was the most counter-intuitive thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any reason why such systems will have periodic, instead of almost-periodic solutions? In the integrable case it is trivial, but in general, in a system with two unstable fixed-points, say, would we not expect a generic chaotic behaviour? </p>
<p>That said, I saw the BZ reaction in a chemistry class once. After primed by a semester of The Second Law and Thermodynamic Equilibrium (in a different class, but still fresh on the memory), that was the most counter-intuitive thing.</p>
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		<description>[...] solutions of the Field-Noyes&#160;model By hydrobates  In a previous post I mentioned the Field-Noyes model which is a three-dimensional dynamical system which gives a [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>hydrobates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today I got vaccinated against swine flu (with Pandemrix). The number of cases in Germany has just decreased - the statistics are available at 
http://influenza.rki.de. - but who knows if this trend will continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I got vaccinated against swine flu (with Pandemrix). The number of cases in Germany has just decreased &#8211; the statistics are available at<br />
<a href="http://influenza.rki.de" rel="nofollow">http://influenza.rki.de</a>. &#8211; but who knows if this trend will continue.</p>
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		<dc:creator>hydrobates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodnianski and Speck  have now posted their paper on this subject as http://arxiv.org/abs/0911.5501</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodnianski and Speck  have now posted their paper on this subject as <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0911.5501" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/0911.5501</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Some vaccinations I have had &#171; Hydrobates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] consult. I will start with hepatitis A and B since that involves some themes which I mentioned in a previous post on influenza vaccines. A point I want to make is that the swine flu vaccines about which there has been so much public [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Willie Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another explanation of the bootstrap argument can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tricki.org/article/A_non-trivial_circular_argument_can_often_be_usefully_perturbed_to_a_non-circular_one&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on the Tricki&lt;/a&gt;. The writing style hints that it is one of Terry&#039;s articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another explanation of the bootstrap argument can be found <a href="http://www.tricki.org/article/A_non-trivial_circular_argument_can_often_be_usefully_perturbed_to_a_non-circular_one" rel="nofollow">on the Tricki</a>. The writing style hints that it is one of Terry&#8217;s articles.</p>
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